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	<description>A perspective about the Islanders, Hockey and other ramblings from Gary Harding, a former Islanders Booster Club President and season ticket holder since 1989. The Blog Name, basically tells you where I sit.  From Row B, Seat 1 in Section 317, I watch the boys that wear my home on their sweaters play hockey over 40 times (hopefully more) every season.  As of October 2008, Gary is a member of the NYI Blog Box, a collection of Islander Bloggers, who will be working at the Coliseum this season, talking about their favorite team.</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfromsection317.com/2008/06/21/a-comment-about-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-24089</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things here to remember. 

     First, ranking is just that, ranking.  In a vast majority of the cases, high draft choices do Nothing.  Do some prosper and become the impact players they are predicted to be?  Certainly, but that is really the &quot;exception&quot; to the rule. Most of the time, first round picks either fall into obscurity or do not do a quarter of what they are expected to do in the NHL. 

    Secondly, we are not NHL scouts.  We don&#039;t go out there and spend the time watching players and figuring out if they are going to be a fit for a need on the team.  We read what is presented in publications and on the internet, but we don&#039;t spend hours upon hours watching and comparing them.  Gary&#039;s example of the Redwings is a great point on this score.

     Thus, as a little flustered and surprised as I was at first, like Gary, I trust in the judgement of our organization.  I am not one to necessarily put my opinions behind the &quot;clout&quot; of the &quot;experts&quot;, but from what I&#039;ve read, it appears that the Islanders and their moves were not the laughing stock of the draft.  What is now important to me is what we do after July 1.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;24089&#039;,&#039;John&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;24089&#039;,&#039;John&#039;,&#039;A couple of things here to remember. \r\n\r\n     First, ranking is just that, ranking.  In a vast majority of the cases, high draft choices do Nothing.  Do some prosper and become the impact players they are predicted to be?  Certainly, but that is really the \&quot;exception\&quot; to the rule. Most of the time, first round picks either fall into obscurity or do not do a quarter of what they are expected to do in the NHL. \r\n\r\n    Secondly, we are not NHL scouts.  We don\&#039;t go out there and spend the time watching players and figuring out if they are going to be a fit for a need on the team.  We read what is presented in publications and on the internet, but we don\&#039;t spend hours upon hours watching and comparing them.  Gary\&#039;s example of the Redwings is a great point on this score.\r\n\r\n     Thus, as a little flustered and surprised as I was at first, like Gary, I trust in the judgement of our organization.  I am not one to necessarily put my opinions behind the \&quot;clout\&quot; of the \&quot;experts\&quot;, but from what I\&#039;ve read, it appears that the Islanders and their moves were not the laughing stock of the draft.  What is now important to me is what we do after July 1.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things here to remember. </p>
<p>     First, ranking is just that, ranking.  In a vast majority of the cases, high draft choices do Nothing.  Do some prosper and become the impact players they are predicted to be?  Certainly, but that is really the &#8220;exception&#8221; to the rule. Most of the time, first round picks either fall into obscurity or do not do a quarter of what they are expected to do in the NHL. </p>
<p>    Secondly, we are not NHL scouts.  We don&#8217;t go out there and spend the time watching players and figuring out if they are going to be a fit for a need on the team.  We read what is presented in publications and on the internet, but we don&#8217;t spend hours upon hours watching and comparing them.  Gary&#8217;s example of the Redwings is a great point on this score.</p>
<p>     Thus, as a little flustered and surprised as I was at first, like Gary, I trust in the judgement of our organization.  I am not one to necessarily put my opinions behind the &#8220;clout&#8221; of the &#8220;experts&#8221;, but from what I&#8217;ve read, it appears that the Islanders and their moves were not the laughing stock of the draft.  What is now important to me is what we do after July 1.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24089','John'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24089','John','A couple of things here to remember. \r\n\r\n     First, ranking is just that, ranking.  In a vast majority of the cases, high draft choices do Nothing.  Do some prosper and become the impact players they are predicted to be?  Certainly, but that is really the \&quot;exception\&quot; to the rule. Most of the time, first round picks either fall into obscurity or do not do a quarter of what they are expected to do in the NHL. \r\n\r\n    Secondly, we are not NHL scouts.  We don\'t go out there and spend the time watching players and figuring out if they are going to be a fit for a need on the team.  We read what is presented in publications and on the internet, but we don\'t spend hours upon hours watching and comparing them.  Gary\'s example of the Redwings is a great point on this score.\r\n\r\n     Thus, as a little flustered and surprised as I was at first, like Gary, I trust in the judgement of our organization.  I am not one to necessarily put my opinions behind the \&quot;clout\&quot; of the \&quot;experts\&quot;, but from what I\'ve read, it appears that the Islanders and their moves were not the laughing stock of the draft.  What is now important to me is what we do after July 1.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, 

After watching day two, I have to agree with your sentiment.  Granted, I thought the Isles actually picking at #5 or moving up would have been waaay more shocking than the trades they made.  When a team does what it has been doing these last 10+ yrs, normal should not even be  closed to being expected.  Expect the unexpected is what I say.  

In addition, seeing what nice picks the scouting team has made the last couple of years especially in later rounds, I for one, put a lot of stock in what they see.  IMO, the Isles had the best third round for any team, hands down. 

Now to play the waiting game.  I, for one, cannot wait til mid-July and mini-camp.  Should be very exciting to watch the new draftees take the ice.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;24088&#039;,&#039;Adam&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;24088&#039;,&#039;Adam&#039;,&#039;Gary, \r\n\r\nAfter watching day two, I have to agree with your sentiment.  Granted, I thought the Isles actually picking at #5 or moving up would have been waaay more shocking than the trades they made.  When a team does what it has been doing these last 10+ yrs, normal should not even be  closed to being expected.  Expect the unexpected is what I say.  \r\n\r\nIn addition, seeing what nice picks the scouting team has made the last couple of years especially in later rounds, I for one, put a lot of stock in what they see.  IMO, the Isles had the best third round for any team, hands down. \r\n\r\nNow to play the waiting game.  I, for one, cannot wait til mid-July and mini-camp.  Should be very exciting to watch the new draftees take the ice.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, </p>
<p>After watching day two, I have to agree with your sentiment.  Granted, I thought the Isles actually picking at #5 or moving up would have been waaay more shocking than the trades they made.  When a team does what it has been doing these last 10+ yrs, normal should not even be  closed to being expected.  Expect the unexpected is what I say.  </p>
<p>In addition, seeing what nice picks the scouting team has made the last couple of years especially in later rounds, I for one, put a lot of stock in what they see.  IMO, the Isles had the best third round for any team, hands down. </p>
<p>Now to play the waiting game.  I, for one, cannot wait til mid-July and mini-camp.  Should be very exciting to watch the new draftees take the ice.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24088','Adam'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24088','Adam','Gary, \r\n\r\nAfter watching day two, I have to agree with your sentiment.  Granted, I thought the Isles actually picking at #5 or moving up would have been waaay more shocking than the trades they made.  When a team does what it has been doing these last 10+ yrs, normal should not even be  closed to being expected.  Expect the unexpected is what I say.  \r\n\r\nIn addition, seeing what nice picks the scouting team has made the last couple of years especially in later rounds, I for one, put a lot of stock in what they see.  IMO, the Isles had the best third round for any team, hands down. \r\n\r\nNow to play the waiting game.  I, for one, cannot wait til mid-July and mini-camp.  Should be very exciting to watch the new draftees take the ice.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Gary Harding</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfromsection317.com/2008/06/21/a-comment-about-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-24074</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not on a high horse?  I trust what the guys that spent hundreds and thousands of hours researching what kind of player the team should have.

If you think this was such a &#039;reach&#039;... Just listen to John Buccigross&#039; comments...  That alone should make what they did PERFECTLY clear.  And he does NOT work for the Isles, so he can say exactly what he wants to.

Just look at Detroit.  See that their MAJOR players are not first rounders.  Pick number 220, 160, etc., all come from their scouting staff.  This organization is lacking in depth.  Yes, LACKING!

If you want to make moves to have am impact, at say, trading deadline, if you do not have enough people to fill the blanks.

Everyone is entitled to opinions, I begrudge no one of that.  However, if people think that they are just doing this to put the team into another piece of disarray, is just as nuts as their thought process....

Let&#039;s see what &#039;depth&#039; we get today!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;24074&#039;,&#039;Gary Harding&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;24074&#039;,&#039;Gary Harding&#039;,&#039;I am not on a high horse?  I trust what the guys that spent hundreds and thousands of hours researching what kind of player the team should have.\r\n\r\nIf you think this was such a \&#039;reach\&#039;... Just listen to John Buccigross\&#039; comments...  That alone should make what they did PERFECTLY clear.  And he does NOT work for the Isles, so he can say exactly what he wants to.\r\n\r\nJust look at Detroit.  See that their MAJOR players are not first rounders.  Pick number 220, 160, etc., all come from their scouting staff.  This organization is lacking in depth.  Yes, LACKING!\r\n\r\nIf you want to make moves to have am impact, at say, trading deadline, if you do not have enough people to fill the blanks.\r\n\r\nEveryone is entitled to opinions, I begrudge no one of that.  However, if people think that they are just doing this to put the team into another piece of disarray, is just as nuts as their thought process....\r\n\r\nLet\&#039;s see what \&#039;depth\&#039; we get today!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not on a high horse?  I trust what the guys that spent hundreds and thousands of hours researching what kind of player the team should have.</p>
<p>If you think this was such a &#8216;reach&#8217;&#8230; Just listen to John Buccigross&#8217; comments&#8230;  That alone should make what they did PERFECTLY clear.  And he does NOT work for the Isles, so he can say exactly what he wants to.</p>
<p>Just look at Detroit.  See that their MAJOR players are not first rounders.  Pick number 220, 160, etc., all come from their scouting staff.  This organization is lacking in depth.  Yes, LACKING!</p>
<p>If you want to make moves to have am impact, at say, trading deadline, if you do not have enough people to fill the blanks.</p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to opinions, I begrudge no one of that.  However, if people think that they are just doing this to put the team into another piece of disarray, is just as nuts as their thought process&#8230;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what &#8216;depth&#8217; we get today!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24074','Gary Harding'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24074','Gary Harding','I am not on a high horse?  I trust what the guys that spent hundreds and thousands of hours researching what kind of player the team should have.\r\n\r\nIf you think this was such a \'reach\'... Just listen to John Buccigross\' comments...  That alone should make what they did PERFECTLY clear.  And he does NOT work for the Isles, so he can say exactly what he wants to.\r\n\r\nJust look at Detroit.  See that their MAJOR players are not first rounders.  Pick number 220, 160, etc., all come from their scouting staff.  This organization is lacking in depth.  Yes, LACKING!\r\n\r\nIf you want to make moves to have am impact, at say, trading deadline, if you do not have enough people to fill the blanks.\r\n\r\nEveryone is entitled to opinions, I begrudge no one of that.  However, if people think that they are just doing this to put the team into another piece of disarray, is just as nuts as their thought process....\r\n\r\nLet\'s see what \'depth\' we get today!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s on their high horse now?  Fans do not like to be surprised on draft day, so the reaction to last night should have been anticipated.  Furthermore the return for the #5 pick, given Toronto&#039;s obvious desperation for the pick, should have been better.  

having said that, once we dropped to 7, Colin Wilson would have been a very good pick - even so, once we got to 9, Hodgson would have been a solid pick...we picked a guy that only 2 teams called prior to the draft.  In spite of all the positive write ups all around the hockey nation about the kid, and the tragedy he draws inspiration from, the fact is he was a reach pick.

As a fan i wish him well...however I&#039;m a little concerned that Garth stretched here for the sake of gathering picks.  Hopefully his second day is more successful than the first.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;24072&#039;,&#039;mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;24072&#039;,&#039;mike&#039;,&#039;Who\&#039;s on their high horse now?  Fans do not like to be surprised on draft day, so the reaction to last night should have been anticipated.  Furthermore the return for the #5 pick, given Toronto\&#039;s obvious desperation for the pick, should have been better.  \r\n\r\nhaving said that, once we dropped to 7, Colin Wilson would have been a very good pick - even so, once we got to 9, Hodgson would have been a solid pick...we picked a guy that only 2 teams called prior to the draft.  In spite of all the positive write ups all around the hockey nation about the kid, and the tragedy he draws inspiration from, the fact is he was a reach pick.\r\n\r\nAs a fan i wish him well...however I\&#039;m a little concerned that Garth stretched here for the sake of gathering picks.  Hopefully his second day is more successful than the first.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s on their high horse now?  Fans do not like to be surprised on draft day, so the reaction to last night should have been anticipated.  Furthermore the return for the #5 pick, given Toronto&#8217;s obvious desperation for the pick, should have been better.  </p>
<p>having said that, once we dropped to 7, Colin Wilson would have been a very good pick &#8211; even so, once we got to 9, Hodgson would have been a solid pick&#8230;we picked a guy that only 2 teams called prior to the draft.  In spite of all the positive write ups all around the hockey nation about the kid, and the tragedy he draws inspiration from, the fact is he was a reach pick.</p>
<p>As a fan i wish him well&#8230;however I&#8217;m a little concerned that Garth stretched here for the sake of gathering picks.  Hopefully his second day is more successful than the first.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24072','mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a rel="nofollow" href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24072','mike','Who\'s on their high horse now?  Fans do not like to be surprised on draft day, so the reaction to last night should have been anticipated.  Furthermore the return for the #5 pick, given Toronto\'s obvious desperation for the pick, should have been better.  \r\n\r\nhaving said that, once we dropped to 7, Colin Wilson would have been a very good pick - even so, once we got to 9, Hodgson would have been a solid pick...we picked a guy that only 2 teams called prior to the draft.  In spite of all the positive write ups all around the hockey nation about the kid, and the tragedy he draws inspiration from, the fact is he was a reach pick.\r\n\r\nAs a fan i wish him well...however I\'m a little concerned that Garth stretched here for the sake of gathering picks.  Hopefully his second day is more successful than the first.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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